"To me, this is what Garrett thinks, this is what Garrett is. He posted a black box. He never said ‘black lives matter.' He posted fists of every color, which to

"To me, this is what Garrett thinks, this is what Garrett is. He posted a black box. He never said ‘black lives matter.' He posted fists of every color, which to me is like, 'Everybody, all lives.' And then the very next post is the 'thin blue line' with a heartfelt, thought-out caption that he said with his chest," Rachel explained. "And to me, that is what you feel, and that is what you believe. I don't think Garrett is malicious, but Garrett is what the problem is."

The conversation continued on Instagram when Becca posted a caption about today's podcast episode.

"This conversation was the hardest, most uncomfortable, but important ones that we've had. I value my friendship with Rachel. I also value my partnership with Garrett. So this is really effing hard. As it should be. I will be the first to admit that listening to this back, I came up short. Very short," she shared in part. "I listen to this & wish I had said more, wish I could have expressed myself better, wish I could have given so much more than I did. I think to myself ‘I didn't ask the right questions,' ‘I threw out the incorrect phrases,' ‘I didn't defend my fiancé,' ‘why couldn't I back up my thought process better?' The list goes on & on."